RE: Historical irony on spying

Topics: Civil Liberties
18 Dec 2005

From: heiland

When I worked at NSA, it was made very clear to us that we had no
jurisdiction to spy on US citizens, with or without a warrant. It was
explained to us that one of the things that made our country superior
to the Soviet Union was that the KGB spied on Soviet citizens, but
neither our CIA nor the NSA ever spied on Americans. We really looked
down on our counterparts at the KGB for that reason. Oh, for the good
old days, when our country was a country of laws, when our boys were
tortured but we didn't torture our prisoners, when we were morally
superior to our enemies. Never thought I'd look back on the good old
days of Ronny Reagan with nostalgia.

heiland

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Ragnar] Historical irony on spying
> From: Ervan Darnell
> Date: Sun, December 18, 2005 11:23 am
> To: ragnar@ragnar.kelvinist.com
>
> The news this week is about Bush's authorization of warrantless spying on citizens making domestic calls (the NSA has long had the authority to spy on international calls).
>
> On "This Week", George Will was arguing against Bush's position not so much on the merits of warrantless searches but on the separation of powers issues, and how stopping the unlimited power of the monarchy was the major theme of the Declaration of Independence.
>
> It was written to protest the abuses of George III, now those abuses are being revisited by George II.
>
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